This web was created in Dec 1998 to provide an unofficial source of information, comments and findings from actual, and potential, owners. Please feel free to contribute any information, images or personal opinions you may have.

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CURRENT POSTINGS  FOR  MAY  2000 

 


29/05/00 - This is the last posting for May as I am unavailable for a few days due to work. I'll make June's postings available ASAP...in the meantime don't forget the Forum, it's there to be used, please do reply to others postings and remember you can perform keyword searches with it so you can find exactly what you're looking for.

From June postings onwards Exhaust, Fairing, For Sale and Tyre posts and news will be placed in the relevant sections found on the main menu, they will not appear in this 'current data' page. The aim of this change is to reduce the size of the current data page for download and to group the information types to make it easier to find and browse what you're looking for. 


29/05/00 - HEIGHT PROBLEMS ONCE THE SEAT HAS ALREADY BEEN REDUCED - I'm some of you have found a way around this problem, if you have please let Christine (cjdavis@cjdavis.freeserve.co.uk) know...

Are there any other female SV650S riders out there in the UK who are experiencing problems with height. I thought that once I had some padding taken out of my seat (the bike not me!) I would be able to touch the floor comfortably but this is not the case. I only need about another inch, I'm okay whilst I'm riding, it's when I stop and have to maneouvre. Any ideas?


29/05/00 - YELLOW HUGGER & BELLY PAN FOR SALE IN UK - This from Jeremy (jem@cneate.swinternet.co.uk)...

Yellow Hugger and Belly Pan for SV650 - £50 the pair,  Buyer arranges collection.

Contact Jeremy Thomas 07801 956239,  email jem@cneate.swinternet.co.uk


29/05/00 - COMMENTS ON OIL IN THE AIRBOX  - Thanks Len (QSIMDO@snet.net)...

Probably irrelevant to the SV phenomenon, so I offer this purely anecdotally; when I changed the air filter in my '94 900SS to a K&N and left the stock airbox inlet off, the oil in the crankcase sight glass was always milky and there always seemed to be about a half ounce of oil in the airbox.

It took a few weeks but it finally dawned on me that by installing the K&N I'd reduced the amount of vacuum in the air box thereby reducing the efficiency of the crankcase breather system which fed into the airbox. A length of hose from the crankcase breather routed to the back of the bike with a little "catch can" and a crankcase filter on the end solved the problem!

As for my SV airbox, well..... I don't go where I'm not invited!

PS...Just bought one of those professional air powered bike lifts! Talk about the dogs! Made several trips with the Mrs. and it works great with the bike as well!!


29/05/00 - RENEGADE EXHAUST PURCHASE - Reinforcing the all the customer reports I've received regarding Renegade Exhausts UK is this feedback from Tony (t.v.r@freeuk.com)...

Have been to renegade today on my 650s just up the road and would like to tell everybody considering buying an after market exhaust forget the rest, Go get a renegade. 

I arrived at about 2 o'clock (they close at 12) to have a look through the window. The door opened and i was invited in. We had a chat and i came away with coffee in my belly some sound advice in my head a very large smile on my face and growling in my ears. I was now the very proud owner of a pair of high level round titanium exhausts.

They sound awesome they look awesome in fact they are awesome. The time and effort the guys put in to make sure everything was spot on was unreal. I am one very very happy customer....one bit of advice stop thinking about changing the exhaust (I umed and ard for about 2 months), just do it its worth every penny. I've read the other emails about how friendly renegade were and I agree with them all..

THEY ARE WICKED 


29/05/00 - REAR BRAKE PAD WEAR - Nick (nwalther@pers.gpb.nl) was alarmed at the rate of wear on his rear pads...

Just a message and maybe a warning for you all, my bike has now done 9300 kms and just replaced the rear metz with a Pirelli Dragon GTS , will let you know how it performs in a couple of weeks (have to run them in), and in the occasion, with the wheel removed i could inspect the rear brakepads in a good manner. But what a shock, they were quite worn off, how could this happen? (because i hardly use the rear brake).

So i will have to replace them real soon, and have ordered a set right away.

This just isn“t normal, there has to be another problem, i think the brakepads don“t come free completely and keep in touch with the disc so they wear much to fast. (not to mention the expensive disc) When i have examined the working of the brakepads when i have them replaced, i will let you know if any problem comes up. Just check yours regular, so safety and money won“t get at stake.  I'll check mine but don't think they're over worn for the mileage...


29/05/00 - BUYERS GUIDE IN MOTORCYCLE NEWS (UK) - Thanks Martyn (martyn@thinktank.freeserve.co.uk)...


Next weeks MCN includes a buyers guide to the SV650. available Wednesday 31st May.

And also....BIKE magazine in the UK are doing a 'Real Road Bikes' test in the next issue on sale on June 8th between the Hornet, SV, Fazer and Bandit. I'll let you know what the conclusions were...


27/05/00 - INFORMATION ON OIL IN THE AIRBOX - see last posting here

The breather pipe that enters the airbox and carries the 'waste' oil can be disconnected and fed down through the frame to emit it's contents onto the road. The reason that it is routed to the airbox is for emission laws as the oil is supposed to re-burn and enter the engine again...hence it's cleaner. As many of you can see, oil residue can be found in the airbox so the process is not that effective! 

Disconnecting the breather pipe will stop the dumping of oil into the airbox and allow your engine to breather cleaner air. It will have no detrimental effect whatsoever.


27/05/00 - REPLIES TO AN ALARM QUESTION - Tony (paganini_n@hotmail.com)

In response to the questions concerning BIKE ALARMS!

As a Chrimbo Gift, I was given a Gorilla Bike Alarm. It's small, easy to fit and includes tilt sensor, shock sensor (programmable via transmitter), voltage dip sensor, programmable siren and panic button via a remote transmiter. It even sends out a warning BEEP if the bike is lightly knocked, this followed by the full alarm if the bike is disturbed again. It fitted neatly under my back seat with room to spare for my disc lock and cleaning rag!!! Fitting time less than 2 hours - nice and easy.

I will take pictures of how it is located under the back seat for a future posting!! yes please..

If anyone is interested, details may be found on the following web site: http://www.gorilla-auto.com/cycle.htm. Although a US site, can be purchased via the net and be delivered direct to your door/bike!

Chains and disc locks are still needed to stop the determined thief, but bearing in mind a bike is stolen every 18 minutes in the UK, it all adds to the bikers peace of mind!!

Also on the subject of alarms are these comments from Jock (jock.addison@dial.pipex.com)...

Just thought I would drop you another line after seeing Erics question about alarms. 

I have a Datatool Veto Plus system fitted to mine (fairly expensive but I got it as part of the purchase deal - my bike was one of the first SV's in the UK and I don't think they realised how well they would sell) and I find it to be an excellent bit of equipment. The system is an alarm / immobiliser unit that activates itself after 30 seconds with the ignition off and you get a remote to turn it off etc. I get a discount on my insurance (rip off merchants:-o) from NU as it is one of their approved systems - this is a good thing ;-). 

The actual device is about the size of a fag packet and is fixed under the fairing between the seats. There may be a better place for it as I cannot carry a 'U' lock in the space provided as the wires get in the way. I have not traced the wiring but it all seems to be fairly neat and I have not had any problems with it at all.

It was fitted by the dealer but as Carnells would have problems tying shoe laces it cannot be that difficult! lol..


27/05/00 -  ENGINE TUNING PARTS - This is from Vee Two Australia...contact (brook@veetwo.com.au)...

Here at Vee Two Australia we are considering doing a run of performance camshafts for the SV 6550. These would be a "Drop In" item suitable for road and or track day use. We would also do a 677cc big bore piston to compliment the cams.

The cams would retail at $1000 AUD approx ( set of 4) Pistons $700 AUD approx per pr.  Let me know if you are interested.


27/05/00 - SV 750cc CONVERSION KIT COMMENTS - some 'interesting' claims for conversion kit - thanks for the comments Tania (JAPORTESE@aol.com)...

I spoke to James Holland about the SV kit after reading it on MCN, well they forgot to mention the £250 fitting charges? Also they decline to say the power gains, (20% of what) Also 116bhp for 810cc? Ducati 916's don't have that. They said that they are the makers? Didn't one of the readers mentioned US? yes, SRDCO see posting  I'm Baffled.

Knowing Jorge & John (the creator of the fastest TRX in the World, 110bhp, proven, don't be surprised if they come up with something for the SV at half the price (fitting free as usual I hope?) there goes my breakfast. Lets wait. 


26/05/00 - INSURANCE FOR NON-BSI APPROVED EXHAUSTS - some comments from me..

I have discovered that the insurance broker company 'Carol Nash' (who I'm insured within the UK) will cover bikes that have a non-BSI approved exhaust fitted. 

When I originally called their service desk to ask if I would be covered if I fitted a non-BSI approved exhaust I was told that I would not be and that to fit a non-BSI approved system/can would invalidate my insurance. Their confirmation that they do insure bikes with non-BSI exhausts is welcomed, particularly since they must be insuring many grey import bikes from Japan, none of which will have BSI approved exhausts as standard! So, if you insure with them and are not clear about where you stand in the event of a claim contact them and ask for their policy in writing. I suggest people insured with other brokers do the same..


26/05/00 - SUZUKI HUGGER & THINGS - A few things from Graham (Graham.White@uk.origin-it.com)...thanks..

Re. the earlier posting about the 'official' Suzuki seat cowl. I took my SV650S in for service today & my dealer showed me the catalogue picture. He said cost is about GBP 59 (don't know if this includes VAT). I noticed fit around base is much better than the others I've seen and  I would expect colour match to be spot on.

Someone else asked about opinion on Huggers.
Last week I fitted an NWS (Black only) hugger & I have to agree with an earlier posting, in my opinion it really is the best looking I've seen. Fit was very easy (20 mins ?) ... I read what others had said about  removing the "Crap Flap" .... there is a 10mm flexi-joint box spanner in the Suzuki tool kit which I used to get this bolt undone.
I bought direct from NWS & cost was higher than MPS but I wasn't sure  if all MPS huggers are made by NWS.

Re. the posting about "Chain Lubeing"... I have to agree with you about the Scottoiler. I don't feel they are that 'ugly'. I had mine fitted at the first service and at 4K the High Capacity  reservoir is only a third empty. I have it set at the lowest setting, only increasing slightly if I'm doing a decent mileage on a very wet day, and this seems sufficient without getting any excess on the rear wheel. It really is a 'fit & forget' device.  It's the first thing (well maybe after an alarm) that I'd have fitted on any  new
bike. Using chain lube without a centre stand must be a real pain !

PS ... anyone still complaining of (very) sore wrists after only short mileage ? I still suffer. Sometimes my right hand is almost dead ! Don't think it's because I'm not used to the low bars as I've now done 4K miles. I'm not saying anything about sore wrists..... ;- )


26/05/00 - IMAGES & FRENCH HOMEPAGE - Thanks Olivier (ocaylus@voila.fr)...

Here are two pics of my blue y2k SV with the following mods from front to rear : 

Axair (france) windshield, Micron full race oval alloy system in normal (stock) position, Ermax (Fr) rear hugger, small turnlights/removed rear fender.  As a lot of people are looking for a windshield, I'm attaching a close up of mine, at the beginning of last week end trip between Paris and Normandie. See previous posting on this usefull cosmetic !

More pictures, sound and movies of my big mate's Honda VTR 1000 and my SV can be found on our http://www.twin-brothers.fr.st/  This site has just been opened, is still under construction but will be regularly updated with our own experience of "french ballades", trip maps, hotels and impressions. With your permission, we will link your site to our page. yes Can you do  the same ? done.

Image 1        Image 2


26/05/00 -  LOWER PEGS & REAR SETS? - If you can help Scott (Scott.Rogers@icbc.com) please let us know..

I am looking into buying a SV650S here in Canada. My problem: I'm 6 feet tall and when I sit onto the bike I get a strong cramp in my hips. I can sit on other bikes (CBR600F4) and not suffer this condition. I believe this is due to the relationship between the sitting position and the height of the foot pegs. I want to buy this bike but would find it impossible to enjoy riding the way it is now. 

My question : Is there any inexpensive way to lower the pegs or can you replace them with lower ones? Any suggestions or comments most welcome.

On a similar subject is this regarding rear sets from Al (LOUGHERA@BUPA.com)...

Do you or any of your readers know of any rear sets for the sv650s? A more comfortable position I have found is with the toes on the pegs which I find is much better for cornering. 


26/05/00 - FRONT BRAKE LEVER & FAIRING WANTED  - Do you have what Darron (darron@dvds.freeserve.co.uk) wants?

Wanted, Front brake lever and fairing for yellow SV, RHS.   Ditched on some diesel, nice!


26/05/00 - MICRON FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM - Lee (Ticker78@aol.com) lets us know about his new system...

Superb site,

I have recently fitted a full micron race exhaust to my 99 SVs. I had no problem fitting it apart from a couple of stiff clamps, but when I located the forward down-pipe into the engine block, the small portion that  fits into the body seemed to be about twice the length of the standard system. So I fitted the securing bracket and tightened it up but there now is a gap  between the bracket and body obviously putting stress on the bracket. 

Being excited about hearing the finished effort I decided to start her up and check the rest of the system for leaks finding there to be no leeks from the system or the front down pipe. The pipe is secure and I've taken it out and I  have no power loss so I have left it for now, I need a new tyre so when I  take it in I'll ask the mechanic about it but I was just wondering if anyone  could tell me where I had gone wrong or if this was normal ( which I dont think it could be ).

The pipe does take a bit of getting used to at first because of the difference in noise levels but it is well worth it with looks, power (got a dyno chart?) and the throaty rumble it sends out.


26/05/00 - SUZUKI SEAT COWL FEEDBACK - Thanks Bernard (Bernard.Brame@btinternet.com)...

In reply to roys post about the seat cowl, i called into my suzuki dealers and they had one to look at ,and it looks the dogs bollocks much better than the pyramid plastic and for a limited time you can buy one for £69 after this it will be £79 which is still cheaper than the £100 pyramid effort


26/05/00 - GEARBOX QUESTIONS - These from Craig (craigbess@yahoo.com)...is it still a problem now? 

Just bought a 2000 SV in California. Love the bike so far, but I have one quick question. On my way home from the dealer, I was stuck in stop/go traffic on the freeway. A couple of times I wanted to shift into neutral while traffic was stopped and the shift lever would "stick" and not move to neutral, felt like the clutch wasn't fully disengaged, then if I increased pressure significantly, it would finally shift into neutral. 

Problem was, after finding neutral I couldn't get it back out of neutral and into 1st. I would click the lever down, the neutral light would go out for a second, then I would release the shift lever and the neutral light would go back on. As I was sitting in the middle of the freeway and traffic started moving, I couldn't mess around and had to
apply significant pressure (more of a "whack") to get it into 1st gear! My new bike! 

I figured out that if I rolled the bike forward while trying to find 1st, that helped a little bit. I've always heard that Suzuki has the best gearboxes in the business, so I was a little worried by this. I didn't experience the problem every time. About half the time I could find neutral and shift back into 1st with no problems.

Any thoughts? Was this just some random break-in period gearbox glitch (it happened during the first 40 miles of riding the bike)? Any help and/or reassurance for a new owner is appreciated...


23/05/00 - LIFTING REAR WITHOUT PADDOCK STAND & CORROSION - This is Kevin (kevin.spud@talk21.com)...

Thanks for a great day out the other day - effort well spent getting there and thanks to Martyn and Gary (rogue CB500) for the company there and back from the Wirral.

I was talking to someone at the meet about how to get the rear up to do the chain etc without a stand. I use a trolley jack (I've got one and try not to spend too much on the bike to keep the missus happy - she bought it for me after all!) to jack up the left hand swing arm with a piece of soft wood to protect the surface.

My point is that if you do this with the wheel locked over to the left then all is well and balance is maintained. That is, if you make sure that the trolley jack (and this is the bit I forgot to say...) lifts from as far back along the swing arm as possible. The latter guarantees the bike keeps over to the left and not doing it risks the thing going over (EEEK!). I hope no disasters have ensued without this little addition to what I mentioned on the day!

Just while I'm at it I wondered if anyone else has problems with some flaking of the paint and therefore rust commencing at the rear end of the support rod at the rear brake (the rod from the swing arm to the brake on the right) where it bolts to the brake itself? If this is a tough luck its the build quality then I'll have to think of a way of reversing the process and reapplying some silver paint but I wondered if I could have a go at Suzuki doing it under warranty. What do you think? 

yes, this is a common problem and many SV I look at show signs of corrosion there, on the front forks, on the P-clips that hold the brake pipes, underneath the engine (various bolt heads) and the horn in the frontal area. The more corroded SV's I see the more I'm convinced that, especially in a country where they salt the roads in winter, you have to clean your SV on a regular basis.  A little and often is much better than a real good wash but not so often. After the wash down spray exposed parts (not brakes or disks obviously) with WD40 or similar. I even put gear oil onto the calipers with an old toothbrush. This may sound overkill but compare my SV to others where less frequent cleaning has been done and you'll notice the difference (and I ride mine everyday and all through the winter).

On the question of sorting it out....we should all go back to our Suzuki dealers and demand that the corroded items be replaced. Normal wear and tear is one thing, having your new SV looking rusted within the first 18-24 months is another. That is not reasonable and you'll have to not be persuaded otherwise. There's a 2 year warranty on the bikes so use it...maybe Suzuki will pay more attention to component finish if they get pestered enough by their customers. The SV is a great bike but corrosion is a big problem unless you keep on top of it and then you're only limiting the damage. Suzuki...if you ever do read this site please SORT IT OUT!

By the way the site seems better for the changes I think. Keep up the good work.


23/05/00 - REPLY TO STORAGE SHED QUESTION - Thanks Garth (Garth.Jones@chase.com)...

Anyone interested in a Bike storage shed (stuartlinton) should check out trimetals@btconnect.com or telephone 01258-459441 the maker is in Blandford in Dorset but they will ship, and they have a monthly pay scheme, the shed is £499 inc VAT , it is steel construction weather proof coated pvc on top. It looks pretty good (see BMF May 2000 issue page 64).


23/05/00 - MIRRORS - No name given by (ethunter@metrolynx.com)...

I have heard comments before about the mirrors on the US SV. Has anyone checked out the mirrors at rka-luggage.com. They look like they might be ok if they don't sit to low.


23/05/00 - REPLY TO TYRE EDGE WEAR QUESTION - Hello Jock (jock.addison@dial.pipex.com), good to hear from you again...

I saw the question from Amir and thought I would pass on my thoughts. 

There are a couple of reasons that it is difficult to get the tyres on the SV scrubbed to the edge: firstly the profile of the tyres is very rounded compared to some bikes and this means you would have to lean over a very long way to get the edge scrubbed. If you compare the angle you are leaning to scrub your tyres to the point they are at, with the angle required on some of the larger bikes to scrub the whole width of the tyre, you may find there is not much difference.

The second problem is with the tyres, unless you can get them very hot (not an activity that is aided by British weather!) they don't offer the grip (or at least that is the way they felt to me) needed to get the pegs down on an SVS (the unfaired bike has lower pegs that you can supposedly deck out on the stock tyres).

I have changed my tyres to Pirelli Dragon EVOs that I feel suit the bike well, but I still have not managed to get them to the edge ( <1cm) and sadly not dragged the pegs (the front slides when they are about 1/2 inch from the ground). Anybody managed to scrape the pegs on an SVS and if so what tyres are you on?


23/05/00 - WHAT HAPPENED? POWER LOSS - Timothy (bellmarie@mediaone.net) is suffering, can you offer help?

Perhaps someone can help me.

For some stupid reason, I rode to work today in the rain (about 50 degrees outside). After my standard 2-3 minutes on choke, I turned off the choke and took off...

After 5-10 minutes of riding I developed a problem. It seems that I am now running on one cylinder only most of the time. Every once in a while, and quite suddenly, I get full power back, and then it's gone again. by the time I actually got to work (25 minutes later) it would also backfire (into the carburator/airbox) every once in a while 
between 1500-4000 rpm.

When I left work to go home, it ran fine for the first 5 minutes, and then the same problem for the rest of the ride home. I hope that I didn't add any further damage riding it that way.

My thoughts are:

1 some sort of electrical/spark circuit short (I rarely ride in the rain)
2 a carburator problem
3 What else could it be?

As to background, my bike has 5500 miles, was serviced last month, and did some high speed (track) riding last week. Has this happened to any body else? yes.

Could be damaged front spark plug (usually front due to road crap from front wheel), could be water in the fuel getting into the carbs. Also people have had lose electrical connections. I struggle to help further because I've not actually suffered these problems (now at 9000 miles) and had to sort them out. If you can offer Timothy more detailed help please write to him and get him going again...


23/05/00 - RIDE-OUT...THE MISSING FEW - Long lost James & co. (jdavis@sv650s.co.uk) report in a week and a half late!  ;- )

It's good to have a reason to contribute at last.......the reason ? I am a member of the "(..and those who meant to attend but were late..?? let us know what happened!)." party. So.....Here's what happened.  (Please feel free to cut as much as you like !) Oh no....it all stays in...

I (and the other half) arrived at Toddington Services on the M1 at 10:40am awaiting arrival of my co-Yellow SV-rider (and his other half).  Despite setting a meeting time of 11:00am, they didn't turn up till  11:45am, meaning we didn't arrive at the Museum until nearly 2:00pm. It was strange not to find anyone there despite the fact we were over 2 hours late ;-) Let me assure you had I known you were going to be late I would have suggested we wait for you.......and after 10 minutes if you hadn't arrived then go!

We then made our way to Stratford using the 'timeless' "shortcut" as supplied by my co-rider. This of course meant that we didn't turn up until everyone was getting ready to leave...... lol....been there, done that...

As we come from 'Down Soufff' it was pointless us heading back northwards to the Museum, so we decided to take the 'scenic' route down the A44 (Oxford way) taking in the Cotswolds, etc. and heading down to the M4 then onto the M25. Great ride ! The weather was incredible ! yes, incredible it wasn't raining!

We had a great day anyway and I for one look forward to the next one where I intend on arriving early ! can I have that in writing please....oh, I just have...

James (Red Faced - Yellow '00 SV) - 

P.s. I prefer the new layout....keep up the good work ! 


23/05/00 - SECURITY SYSTEM / ALARM FOR SV - If you have the knowledge we're looking for please reply to Erics (eric.padovani@fnac.net) question...

I'm French and SV650S owner (what a great bike !) and I want to make the "security system" I don't know the name in english - So I need to know the different measures and where it is fixed on the bike - could you help me ? Not me...don't have an alarm on my SV but someone will. If you're that someone write in and gives us some information, a 'how to' would be good explaining what alarm, where you got it, how you fitted it and whether it works!


23/05/00 - OIL IN THE AIRBOX REPLY - Some feedback and images from John (john.tapley@btinternet.com)....ta..

You'll always get some oil in the airbox because the crankcase vent tube is routed straight from the crankcase to the airbox. The purpose is to burn any oily omissions from the crankcase. Old British bikes don't have this and you'll often see a pipe running to the rear end of the bike.

It sounds like you have to much oil in the airbox, perhaps this is because there is too much oil in the crankcase? What does the level look like in the glass?

Also from John are his photo's from the ride-out..

http://www.john.tapley.btinternet.co.uk/photos/index.htm


23/05/00 - ADJUSTABLE SPAN CLUTCH LEVER - If you can suggest a replacement for Dave (dave_turner@cableinet.co.uk) please write in...

Does anyone know where I can get an adjustable span clutch lever from for my SV?

I've just picked the bike up from its first service. When I took it in my two concerns were misfiring in the wet; thanks to the information on your site I didn't worry too much about this as it seems to be a known problem, and "snatchy" transmission. I rode in constant heavy rain for two hours last Saturday coming back from the BMF Show in Peterborough and I was wet through when I got home but the SV didn't miss a beat, mine has never played up in the wet. Maybe this is because I coat everything with WD40 after each wash, especially up around the front spark plug?

The dealer seems to have done a good job of curing most of the "snatchyness" (now being able to rev it up a bit helps!) as everything in the transmission department is now a lot tighter, including the clutch adjustment. The clutch now engages right at the end of its travel. This makes control a bit awkward with my small hands.

My "take off" from the dealers was not good; as the newly adjusted clutch, small hands and first time on new gloves were all conspiring against me! I've tried the old gloves again and its not a question of faulty gloves! Might be faulty rider though!

I've had a look at the manual and considered "unadjusting" the cable to introduce slack, but am uncertain about the consequences of doing this? Good things like adjustable clutch levers are the things that are lacking from 'budget' bikes...and the SV does fall into that camp. However, why make the front brake adjustable and not the clutch? Is is a safety thing that Suzuki have to?

I've had a succession of Triumphs prior to the SV, these had adjustable span clutch levers. I'm amazed how much easier the SV is to ride as it does not suffer from the "top heavy" Triumph tendency, and is so less bulky.

I've enjoyed your site, and has been most influential in my decision in buying a SV. Keep up the good work.


23/05/00 - GENUINE (OFFICIAL) SUZUKI SEAT COWL - You can get them now at £68 each...thanks for the images Roy (roybach@blastpast.fsnet.co.uk)...

Find attached pics of the NOW available Suzuki seat cowl, it is a very good fit and is a direct replacement for the rear seat as it has exactly the same fittings, it is also very rigid being of a double skin construction and should offer a little extra under seat/cowl storage, might even get my wet suit in there. 

M&P Bridgend have some in stock in all available SV colours at £68 each if anyone is interested, or of course you can try you're local Suzuki dealer.

Image 1      Image 2      Image 3


23/05/00 - GENERAL QUESTIONS - Hope this helps Thomas (trcash@usit.net)...

First off, this site is great! One of the best laid out bike sites anywhere. Keep it up!

Second. Due to the unavailability of the SV650S in Tennessee. I am planning on purchasing one in Canada and importing it. Should I get Black or Blue. That is the question... Ummm......blue.

Third. Looking through the Images files, Archive 4, I notices that the picture ozzycustom1.jpg had a duel carbon fiber set up that was high and kept the passenger foot pegs. (I like the Two Brothers Racing style oval cans. Sorry, long time Honda fan.) I liked the whole look. I have already decided to remove the rear fender and put smaller rear turn indicators on the bike and this looks perfect. (Enough babbling) What company makes the exhaust and who makes the extended front tinted wind shield. (I am 6 foot 5, It is needed). 

Renegade Exhausts UK are the manufacturers of the system you've seen. I don't know what screen is fitted.  Ozzy, if you're out there.....what screen is fitted?


23/05/00 - USA & UK differences - Patrick (randallp@us.ibm.com) in California asks a new question...and yet again I don't have an answer!

Can anyone tell me what I might need to do to use a Californian SV650 in UK? I'm really tempted to buy one for the last year I'm here (US) then ship it back but I'm worried that it will need all sorts changed. Help! Please!

I guess it's the same considerations as for importing a US car and using it in the UK. Probably a lot of paperwork but not sure if anything has to be modified on the bike itself? There must be someone reading this who knows the answer.....please write in..


23/05/00 - MICRON EXHAUST IMAGES - Gerry (gerry@major-elec.demon.co.uk) simply sends these..

Image 1      Image 2


23/05/00 - This is Brians (brishe@momandpops.fsnet.co.uk) reply to Mark of London...

Just to cover Marks question, I've had both, black naked - nicked! BASTARDS. And the absolutely gorgeous Yellow faired.

Black Naked, different ride on the motorway but on A and B roads nothing looks HARDER, 'cept maybe a V-max.(Were not worthy).

Yellow, just spanking, eye catching, and a dream on motorways. Every large plate glass window you pass, you'll almost want to stop and stare at ya self, believe me (what...you do that as well??). Also, the naked is easier to work on.

Also from Brian...

I see you finally have some sponsorship. 'Bout time too. Somebody, other than your readers likes the site. Must admit for a part-timer you have one of the VERY best sites i've seen. BUT don't retire on your good fortune just yet...we need more. 

SOME THOUGHTS FROM ME......

Sponsorship? I have not asked for money to place the Renegade banner and text on the main page, I do it because I like Jorge & John at Renegade, they are friendly and knowledgeable and I think their product is pretty unique. Not only that but they took the time and trouble to contact me and were concerned that they give you all as much information as possible before you had to contact them to make it easier for you.....hence the Renegade F.A.Q. page. Have Suzuki, Micron, M4, Powerbronze, Scorpion or any of the other companies covered time and time again on this site ever been in touch with me? No. They could quite easily but they don't.....read what you like into that....

On a more general note I'm not interested in making money from the site or from you guys, you've probably guessed that if I wanted to do that I would have done it a long time ago. As long as the company offers a good product with good service to SV owners (I need to see the feedback from customers) then I'll show their advert. If they  wish to give me something in return because they have taken orders as a direct result of being advertised on this web then, as long as it's suitable, I'd consider it (I'm talking products not money....call it bartering if you like....politicians are doing it all the time !).   sv650.org won't be tied to any company because it's receiving cash for advertising, it will be tied to companies because they offer good products and great service. Simple.


21/05/00 - HESITATING SV AT 6000RPM - Dennis (heij.de@wxs.nl) in Holland needs some help from others who've found the same and managed to sort it (and let me know..)...

I have a problem with my SV and it is not the spark plugs because i replaced them after 6000 km because i have a hesitating at 6000 rpm and it feels like a misfire but i also clean the carburetors and i have still a problem please help me.


21/05/00 - OFFICIAL SUZUKI SEAT COWL (& HUGGER?) - Thanks for this 'official' information Roy (roybach@blastpast.fsnet.co.uk)..

Not sure about the new site , but I'm sure it's fine, once I get used to it.(I hope so...)  However, the reason I'm sending this e-mail is to inform you and you're avid readers that Suzuki have informed their main dealers of the availability of a seat cowl for the SV650, I have placed an order for one but I'm not holding my breath as I have been already waiting three weeks for a Tank cover to arrive, they also mention a Hugger that they are evaluating to make available later. so fingers crossed.


21/05/00 - AN IMAGE WITH A DIFFERENCE - This sent by Brian (RennBP@mfr.usmc.mil )...

I am the guy that was importing the sweet Canadian SV650S for people in the US. I met up with Greg Johnson (the sv650r sort of looks like a small R1) last week here in Knoxville and showed him this pic, by the way, when you see the bike in real life you know that Greg really does know what he is doing! He thought you would like it. It's pretty cool here in K-town because we have more SV650S around here than probably most of the United States put together thanks to myself. 

All of the SVS and American SV's (what, *all* of them??) are going to Deals Gap (318 corners in 11 Miles)  No police around, the last weekend of the month and we will take another pic for you but I thought you boys (and girls!) in the UK would like this one. 

From left to right, Harley Davidson Dyna wide glide 1340cc, 1999 Chevy Corrvett, four SV650S's then Y2k Corrvett contvertable and then on the right Harley Davidson 883 Hugger. I hope you like it. shame about the Harleys..... ;- )    (that was a joke......please don't write hate mail!) 

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21/05/00 - RIDE-OUT IMAGES - These sent in by Peter (jokay@jokay.free-online.co.uk)...ta..

Enjoyed the ride out cant wait for next year here are a few more photos from the meet

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21/05/00 - BRIDGESTONE BT57 TYRE - Chad (tia@nb.aibn.com)

I see you've made some changes to your site. It should make it easier for people to find what they're looking for but I will continue to read everything I can about the SV. 

I recently installed a Bridgestone Battalax BT57 rear tire and am happy with its performance. Turn in was much improved compared with the squared off MEZ4. I spend 90% of my time commuting so I gave up the extra grip from the BT56 for the higher mileage of the BT57. My Metzler was severely squared off and down to the wear bars at 10,500 kms. Does that seem like average mileage? I'd say so..

Some people told me to mount the same rear tire to match the front but it would have cost $230 for the MEZ4 compared with $135 Canadian which I paid for the BT57. They are now replaced with the BT010 so that helped with the lower price. For anyone looking for a good performing, well priced tyre with excellent wet weather traction, I recommend the BT57 or newer BT010. For those of you seeking ultimate grip in the corners with less mileage, I'm told the BT56SS, which my friend mounted on his CBR600F4, is hard to beat. The BT56 rear on my SVS is now at the tread wear indicators after 4500 miles with no burnouts and hardly any rear wheel spinning/sliding. My next tyre will be the BT010 I think. I loved the feel of the BT56 when new but as it squared off it felt just like the METZ when tipping into corners i.e. nothing then, as it reaches the squared of edge, fell in quickly. The usual trade off between grip and wear...

Thanks for having a place for SV riders to learn more about their bikes (my pleasure.....most of the time!)


21/05/00 - POLISHING FRAME EXPLAINED - In reply to his last post is this...thank you Johanzone (johanzone@skynet.be)

Since i get so many e-mail about how i did it i will try to explane a bit. I tend to have a knack of generatign a lot of emails for others! Sorry for the bad english. Sorry for mine too

You do not have to take the whole bike apart. Just remove the front seat and lift up the tank. Tape off the complete engine and tank. It will get very dirty.

You need to use sand paper. You start with 360 until the frame is a bit smoother and has no little holes any more. Then you continue with 600 , 800 , 1200 with water until it's done. At last you use 2000. When this is done use polishing paste. This will take a lot of time , sandpaper and sweat. A good advice : get a (girl)friend that helps you. I work for about 10 days. Never spray clear paint or something like that , it will never get the shine then and the paint will peel off! 

After that you must a few times more use the polishing paste (i used Triumph...). After 5 - 6 times the frame is very shiny and will stay that way even when you wash the bike. The paste protects the frame. It will take extra care and regular use of paste in the future. I hope you know a bit more now. I can explain in detail but only in Dutch...sorry. Thats fine Johanzone! I thought you must have stripped the bike right down but obviously not...


21/05/00 - A URL - Simple to the extreme from (tarmos.dingos@wanadoo.fr)..

I'm sorry, i don't speak english. But this is my URL

http:/perso.wanadoo.fr/tarmos.dingos


21/05/00 - CHANGING BIKES IN BELFAST - Nicky (nicky@nmcb2.freeserve.co.uk) has a few problems..

Just thought i would send you a message regarding the availability of the sv650s.

At present i have an aprilia rs125 and i toured ireland twice and a very small part of europe (i went to spa for the 24hr gp) then luxemburge then colone, and back home to belfast,YES on a 125. But this year we are going further, and i cant ask any more of the rs even thought in 2 years it has NEVER failed me, so at spa i saw my first sv650s and i had to have one.

My bank has given me my loan but i cant get the (sv650s) anywhere in northern ireland only the non fairing one, one suzuki dealer had never heard of them ,HUMM, (why does that not surprise me...) any way i have found a place a good few miles away who can get me an import (jusk like my aprilia is) at £4000, so do you think i should go for this or go across the water and get one from a dealer at $4800 and pay for all my travel as well. The reason i ask this is because i have heard so many stories about imports and lack of support and i cant say that i will have no trouble with it like my rs. 

I've go to ask, why can't your Suzuki dealer get you an SVS?? Northern Ireland is part of the UK! Speak to your dealer again and then to Suzuki GB if you get no joy. If they can get a unfaired SV they can get a faired one, what the difference? If anyone else knows of problems like this in Northern Ireland please write in or contact Nicky and get your heads together. If I was in Northern Ireland touring on my SVS and went to a Suzuki dealer for help/parts I would expect them to be able to deal with my faired SV, it part of the mainland and therefore must be covered by Suzuki GB.....if I'm wrong tell me...

please help me, i want one soooooo badddd


21/05/00 - BIKE STORAGE - If you can make suggestions to Stuart (Stuartlinton@aol.com) please do...

I'm taking delivery of a sparkly blue 650 S soon, and would like to know if anyone knows where I can get a pre-fabricated small bike shed, or something similar in the U.K. I would be really grateful. Do you mean metal or concrete? Anyone out there help?...please 

p.s. Is the bike as good as everyone says ? I hope so !!! If you think it's not then tell us all...


19/05/00 - OIL IN THE AIR BOX - Kerry (KSquareHAC@aol.com) is having some problems....do you know what it could be?

Back in November, 1999, you had a letter from Mike in Germany regarding a stuttering bike and finding oil in the airbox. You said you had also seen this on your bike.

After some 'spirited' riding in the 100 mph range (warm weather, dry roads, sunny skies after a horrid winter, etc.) my trusty SV started balking under even moderate acceleration. It shouldn't be the usual water in fuel problem, but delving into the airbox, I found a fair amount of oil near the forward carb. I ran a can of carb cleaner/fuel system cleaner through the gas tank, but it didn't help much. The front plug looks good, no oil residue there.

Can you or Mike in Germany offer any guidance? I tried the dealer, but it's a two to three week wait to get my bike in for service.  I haven't checked mine for months but I've had no problems or reason to. Did someone say a while back that a little oil in the airbox was not a thing to worry about? May be someone could clarify please?


19/05/00 - HOW LOW CAN YOU GO - Is that a personal question? Don't ask.... ;- )    Amir (amir2@global.co.za) has been pondering...

First a big thank you for the effort taken in posting the pics from your ride-out for the benefit of us unfortunates who will never experience such an event. It is indeed a visual feast for any sv enthusiast! Secondly I would like to highlight an observation I made when looking closely at some of the pics showing the rear tyre of the bike/s. I am referring to that 2cm wide band of virgin rubber found on the outside shoulder of the tyre which is apparent on most of the machines there. (I have one on mine too by the way). 

Is it that the mez4 is constructed in such a way that leaning to that angle is only for the exceptionally brave (or exceptionally stupid), or is it that most sv riders are of the more conservative or perhaps less experienced breed? Just a thought.

Personally, I have reached the point where I'm ready to take an orbital sander to the tyres just to get the right 'streed cred' appearance to my rubber when parking at Cafes, etc next to bikes shod with tyres that are worn right to the shoulder - and beyond...

If any one else has ever pondered this matter, please speak up, I need re-assurance here.    Well, to my way of thinking there's only one way to wear down right to the edge of the tyre and that's to lean over further in corners. Whether you get your knee down or just lean even more than usual (as in racing days of old) the fact remains that, on UK roads anyway, there's simply no need to (oh...and it's pretty risky too). I do want get my knee down but the only place I'm going to do that is on a track. If you've been on a track and you're edges aren't worn then  there's no excuse!


19/05/00 - COOLANT LEAK - Thanks Dave (dave@stayfree.co.uk) for this...

I collected my new SV650S ( Blue ) on saturday 13th May, I've now covered 558 miles, (you need the patience of a saint to keep the revs below 5,000 RPM) I am really impressed with the bike, but after a short spin tonight i noticed a small coolant leak coming from a hose that connects to the left hand side of the front cylinder, it appears that the spring clip used for fastening the hose is a little slack. I'm hoping it will be corrected during it's first service in a fortnight's time. Yes, it should be...make sure they sort it out.

Great site, very informative and quite influential, when as the next ride out?      Next year or sooner if someone else organises one!

Also talking about coolant leaks is John (john.tapley@bt.com) who came on the ride-out and replies to Abbas...

Abbas....Me too. Didn't notice it till last night. Couldn't find the source but I checked the coolant top up tank (viewable on the right hand side of the bike just between the frame spars) and noticed that it's full to the brim, well past the upper mark. So I am assuming that its overflowed. Sunday was damn hot (yeah....good wasn't it!) and I assume that the bike got a little hotter than normal. I can't remember hearing the fan, but I was wearing earplugs.

I've spoken to John about this and he now thinks his was not a leak but an overfull water reservoir (see it on right hand side aligned with carbs..see a high and low water mark).  


19/05/00 - YELLOW PAINT CODE - Giovanni (ronchitelli@mail.omnitel.it) says...

I'm Giovanni, a SV rider from Italy. I always look at your interesting site, nice idea! Sorry for taking your time, but I was not able to find the paint code of my yellow naked '99 SV650... I have to paint "she" after falling down (luckily at low speed!). Any idea or suggestion?

Yep...see posting of 14/02/00 - the yellow code is Y9F


19/05/00 - THINKING OF BUYING AN SV - Mark (mark_of_london@hotmail.com)

I wonder if you could help me with a few questions :- 

1. I am thinking of buying a Sv650 but not sure which to buy the Faired or unfaired. I will be ridding to and from work on a daily basis which is about 30 miles each way. It's so hard to tell you want you want...only you know that. Consider whether there's a lot of town work (unfaired) or open motorway/A roads (faired). Which do you like the look of most? Which type is available in the colour you want etc, etc.....I'm afraid you read the info on this site and you have to make your own mind up. 

2. I'm from Kent UK and my local dealer is offering the Sv unfaired for £4080. onr, and the faired for £4300. onr. is this a good offer. and does anyone know of any other dealers selling them cheaper. If that's the on the road price then are they unsold '99 bikes? If they're 2000 machines then it seems a good price to me (RRP is about £4700-£4800 otr for the SVS I think.)

3. Does anyone know what the fuel consumption is on a Sv650. Depends on how you ride it....I get, on average, about 140-150 miles from full to flashing light..about 13 litres.


19/05/00 - RENEGADE EXHAUST FEEDBACK - Jon (FLEMINGJohnnycab@aol.com) is more than pleased with his twin system...

Great to see that other sv owners have had the pleasure of meeting MAD JORGE! Boy is this guy radio rental on anything with two wheels as well as anything with two.......

Anyway this is just a big plug for all the staff as well as Jorge (George to you and me) down near Brands. After having my twin high level carbons fitted in Nov99 I have been back countless times for other adjustments and fittings as well as just to see what bikes are undergoing surgery. Your always made to feel welcome whatever the time (after 8pm is not unusual) and you come away with that long forgotten feeling of personal customer service.

The reason behind this plug ?......getting fed up with people stopping me in petrol stations , car parks and traffic lights asking "f*****g great pipes where ja get 'em from". 

Get yourself down there and check out the man with a '90 degree twin between his ears ! Cheers George.......Big Jon


19/05/00 - CHAIN WAX REPLY - John (john.starns@framestore.co.uk) replies to an earlier posting here....

Having tried most forms of chain lubrication over the years (except the awful looking Scottoiler contraption) (awful looking but highly effective..) I have been using Castrol Chain Wax on my SV from new with no problems or fling off.

Also from John is this on Scorpion hi-level cans...

Sorry I couldn't make the ride at the weekend, it looked a lot of fun. Are there any more planned; a trip to the seaside perhaps? My main reason for writing is to ask if anyone has a high level Scorpion exhaust fitted to their SV. It's only been available for a short time and all that Scorpion could offer was a poor photocopy. 

If anyone has a photo of their bike with the Scorpion hi-level I'd appreciate it as I've narrowed the end can decision down to this and the Renegade.


19/05/00 - 750cc CONVERSION KIT AVAILABLE - Thanks for the info Barry (srdco@earthlink.net)...

SRDCO USA has a new 750cc kit for SV650's.  They are sold by JAMES HOLLAND SERVICES in Bristol UK.

Thank you Barry...if anyone has anymore information on James Holland Services then please forward it here....


19/05/00 - RIDE-OUT & SCOTTOILER - Chris (c.i.thompson@cableinet.co.uk) unfortunately couldn't make Stratford...

I managed to meet up with yourselves at the Motorcycle museum and had a great time speaking to others with a taste for the SV. It has given me a burning desire to do something with my exhaust. 

I had just fitted a scottoiler the night before and had not adjusted it correctly, now running better, I have found a better tidier route for the feed pipe up the inside of the swing arm if you would like I could send pics. When it came time to leave the Museum I had to head for the M6 so I missed all the fun at Stratford. The procession of SVs round the Island looked brilliant I only wish I could have been part of it. 

Are you contemplating another run? if so I look forward to taking a full part in it. I won't be organising another this year but I'm more than happy to post information (or link to another webpage) for anyone else who will arrange an SV meet up..the offers there.... (see Emma's comment below)


19/05/00 - RIDE-OUT COMMENTS - thanks Emma (Emma.J.Parker@tesco.net)...

WOW - what can I say, I had a fantastic time on Sunday. ( SV Ride out to Stratford).  I didn't know quite what to expect (me neither!), and I was a little bit nervous about meeting up with experienced SV riders. ( having only had my SV for 6 weeks). However, there was no need to feel nervous, as everyone was really friendly, down to earth and up for a bit of fun (see what the SV brings out in all of us!) 

Thanks again for organising the ride out, not to mention the web page. We'll have to do it again soon. Plus if anyone's in the Birmingham area and wants to meet up for another trip to Stratford, drop me a line. (see Chris' comment above)


18/05/00 - G-FORCE EXHAUST INFORMATION - Tony (TonyStorer@grassmere99.freeserve.co.uk) says...

I have a yellow SX which i adore! Also some info on aforementioned exhausts which may be of interest.

Spoke to Mike today at 'G-Force', they make some very attractive exhausts for SV650. Two models available, a slip-on end can (cutting required) and a 3/4 system where the existing front cylinder downpipe is maintained. Power is claimed to be up by 4 bhp or 7 bhp with 3/4 system. Alloy, Carbon, titanium available and prices range from £140 for round alloy end can to £405 for 3/4 system with oval titanium.

I do not work or have any connection at all with this company but found Mike very helpful and knowledgeable concerning SV650 so decided to share info. I am saving for a 3/4 system with round carbon (£340). Their telephone number is Tel 0115 9441032 (Ilkeston, Derbyshire)

Anyone running a G-Force exhaust with further comments?


18/05/00 - LEOVINCI EXHAUST INFORMATION - Huhues (hugues.bouard@sap.com) wants some information..

I have heard of a full race line from Leovinci for the SV. Any opinions/photos available ? anyone comment?

I have also noticed as well an Akapovic line on a blue SVS on the rideout's photos. How does it feels/sounds ? care to write in?


16/05/00 - For me this image sums up the ride-out! click to view 

16/05/00 - HOLESHOT FLY SCREEN LINK - Thanks Rick (willrick2@yahoo.com) for the new information...

I'm a big Bandit 1200 fan, but I do have a hankering to race an SV one of the days. In the States, the primo supplier of Bandit go-fast goodies is drag racer Dale Walker, who runs Holeshot Performance in California. He's most famous for his electric powershifter you'll find in Yoshimura's official catalog, but he makes exhaust systems and various custom parts for many other bikes.

So I noticed that Dale is selling a flyscreen for the naked SV650, including all the necessary brackets to mount. When I strolled on over to your web site to see how many people have already posted images of it, I was surprised to find none. 

I think Dale may have just posted the SV screen on his web page in the last week or so, that could be the reason. Regardless, check it out at:
http://www.holeshot.com/sv650/sv650fly.html

He sells basic black, or professionally painted blue or red to match the stock Suzuki colors. I had one of these screens on my Bandit (which I traded for a gold/brown '96 GSXR750 last week), and the flyscreen did a fine job keeping the windblast off my body. It's still not as much wind protection as a full fairing, but far better than no screen at all. Plus it looks righteous and muscular. 


16/05/00 - POLISHED SV FRAME - Johanzone (johanzone@skynet.be) sends these images....very polished..

Here are some pics of my SV with polished frame, rear pegs and wheels. It was a lot of work but the result is very good. Great site b.t.w. Keep up the good work.

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16/05/00 - NEW GRAPHICS LINK & REPLY TO SV COVER POSTING - Thanks Tom (tomctx@email.msn.com) for the info..

Take a look at www.npgraphics.com. He's coming up with some neat stuff for the SV.   not too sure about the yellow screen and red paint work! ;- )

Also....with regard to this posting...

Don't know if he ships to Europe, but try www.cycleshell.com. These are just the thing for bikes that sit outside all the time. As to slip over covers, I find if I order the next size larger cover than is shown for my application, it seems to work better. I have bought Dow covers in the past with good results.


16/05/00 - SCREEN FEEDBACK - This from Des (des105@webhart.net)...

Thanks for the input on your screen. I like the tint level on yours but I think I'll go for the OEM shape. I e-mailed MPS but they want £35 for shipping to Canada. I only paid £20 for my Tech-Line lower from Holland! Their service is great however as catalog requests and tint samples were here within one week.

On the SV rideout... I'm envious. I'm wondering what the confusion was like when it came time to find tour OWN bike in the crowd!   there were quite a few red but masses of yellow (I originally wanted a yellow but guess what......yep, couldn't get one for love nor money back in March '99)

Keep up the great work, one day Suzuki might realize the sales they've made off this site and reward you... sorry, what was I thinking!   if I can't get a decent reply out of them about the known SV problems I'm pretty sure that getting anything else out of them would be similar to stumbling across hobby horse muck!


16/05/00 - RIDE-OUT COMMENTS - Thank you Owen (owen.w@ntlworld.com)...

Just a quick word to say thanks for the excellent web site and arranging the get together on Sunday. It was great to talk with other SV-ers at a top venue ! Somebody mentioned putting email addresses somewhere for future rides, so if anyone fancy's hitting the Dales in Yorkshire / Lancashire or the Peak District, drop me a line. I'll certainly post a list if people send in their emails..

Hope everyone got home safe !  I second that..


16/05/00 - MORE RIDE-OUT COMMENTS - Doug (Douglas.Pepper@KPNQwest.com) was not too far away....

Sorry I missed the ride out, but as you can see from the picture (guess who's got a new camera :) I was up the road cheering on our lads in the WSB. Excellent 2nd race with the brits getting 1st and 2nd. I did notice a  couple of SV's in on the campsite and in the car park, so I feel better knowing I was not the only one not on the ride out.

Looking forward to the next one (but please try and make it a non racing weekend). well....if they will go and schedule WSB racing knowing it was the ride-out weekend what could I do about it? ;- ) As an aside, I'm still waiting for my Goodridge brake lines (compared mine to a German girls  SV with steel lines, and found mine lacking) oh and that fenda extend must have taken a world cruise, coz it's not arrived in my mitts yet. Any way, glad
the ride out turned out ok (how many others lost weight due to wearing leathers in that heat), and will catch you on the next one..  the only thing we lost was our way!


16/05/00 - CHAIN WAX - Can you help Kevin (drkmurphy@clarinet99.freeserve.co.uk)?..

Anyone out there have any experience with chain wax? I'm trying out a ceramic wax that turns the chain slightly white (I think its called techflow). Will it do a good job compared to ordinary chain lube? It certainly is about 20 times cleaner to use. This stuff really doesn't fling off. Everything stays nice and (relatively) neat.  no experience with chain wax...only a Scottoiler which is just the job..


16/05/00 - TYRES - Russell (Russell@gladwish.fsnet.co.uk) asks about tyres..

I know that most owners seem to change their tyres from the original Metzlers, but what are the best tyres for the SV? I'm not unhappy with the Metzlers in the dry, but in the wet I get slightly nervous to say the least. Any suggestions out there? It depends. Consider wear, grip, cost, availability etc, etc...all I can suggest is searching through the archives. I'm happy with my BT56's but I know others like Dunlop D207's and similar. There are harder tyres that will last longer. I think I need a tyre section.

Also, I cant believe there are no takers for my amazing exchange offer! It is genuine. The only reason I want to change to an unfaired bike is a back that prefers sitting more upright, otherwise I would'nt change it for the world! give it a few days....also, a lot more SVS's were sold here than unfaired bikes so you may not find anyone with an unfaired who wants to change. They had a choice so maybe they like their SV's...

Wish I'd gone for the ride out now looking at all the pictures. Beats the endless DIY I was forced into. Hope everyone had a good time. that'll teach you for not being there!


16/05/00 - RIDE-OUT & THEN LEAKING COOLANT - Thanks Abbas (AKhan@attrs.uk.att.com)...if you've had similar problems or know for sure what could have cause the leak shown please got in touch...

What a day for the ride-out yesterday! Well done on organising it and hope we can sort another out soon. It was brilliant to see so many top SV's and those Renegade exhausts - gruntmania!! 

Unfortunately though, when I got back I noticed that my bike had leaked a bit of coolant (see attached pic). Any ideas as to why this would happen and is it a serious problem? 

Thanks again for the top website and keep up the good work.

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15/05/00 - THE RIDEOUT - Many thanks to Paul (paulbrian@btinternet.com) for the note....

Just like to say thanks for a great day out. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say what a good time we all had and how we appreciate all your effort.

I'll post some photos on my website soon. Here's looking forward to next year.

A big THANK YOU to the 33 (I think I heard 33 mentioned as the count) people who turned up for the ride-out yesterday (and those who meant to attend but were late..?? let us know what happened!). The weather was fantastic, hot and sunny :- )  After meeting up and having a chat we rode to Stratford-upon-Avon and chilled out by the river with chips and ice cream (nice!?). There were already hundreds of other bikes there and the appearance of us lot turned a few heads! Check out the images, I don't suppose so many SV's have been seen together. From Stratford we drifted off towards home with riders joining up where routes were the same. 

For me the highlights of the day were meeting the people behind the emails, the ride itself (someone's throaty end can in front and loads of bright headlights behind!) and the glorious weather.

Funniest moment....for me it was pulling into a lay-by when the group I was with realised we were lost. As everyone stopped and waited looking puzzled I thought I'd take off my glove and find my printed directions. No sooner had I unfolded the paper than someone went past pointing forwards and the group I was with roared off into the distance with me frantically trying to put the directions back into my pocket and pull my gloves on! By the time I was ready to pull out I glanced around and there was no one to be seen....great...thanks guys!! :- )  I ended up stopping for petrol anyway and knew I was in the right area when I approached a roundabout in Stratford only to find two yellow SV's going around (for what looked like the second time!). I tagged on the back and soon we were all parked up. Sorted.

So...thanks again to everyone (don't ask me to remember all the names!). There were people from the South Coast, one guy from the South West, one from Scotland and also from Yorkshire and loads of other places...thanks to you all. I just hope you got as much as out of it as I did.....if so we'll do it all again next year!


15/05/00 - INTUITIVE FRAME SLIDERS - Chad (tia@nb.aibn.com) sends these comments and images for anyone interested....

I installed a pair of frame sliders from Intuitve Race Products (www.inturace.com) and thought your readers might want to see some pictures. 

I had wanted to buy some for a while but couldn't find much information or any pictures of where the sliders mount and my Suzuki dealer was no help at all. I decided to go with ebony (black; part # EFS-21) but ivrie (white; part # IFS-21) sliders are also available and can be seen installed on a blue naked SV on the site above. Click on products, then frame sliders, and scroll down to see the SV pictures. They cost $49.95 US which worked out to $87.30 Canadian including shipping from California to me in Eastern Canada. The longer bolts and washers are included along with instructions for installation which took 10 minutes. The right slider is 3 1/2 inches long while the left is 2 1/2 inches because the right one is mounted closer to the motor. 

The service from IRP was outstanding and I would like to thank Derek McKesson for answering all my questions. He replied to my e-mails promptly and figured out the exchange rate to Canadian dollars and shipping cost before I placed an order. I didn't buy the frame sliders for racing like most people but I know they would protect my bodywork, tank, and frame from a fall. They cost me a little money now but might save alot in the future if the unspeakable were to happen. Call it insurance I hope I never have to use. IRP is developing frame sliders for use with a full race fairing which use the 12mm bolts instead of the 9mm ones and should be available soon. 

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15/05/00 - SV vs TL1000S - Thanks go to John (Mcmillan@tl1000sv2.freeserve.co.uk) for confirming what I thought might be the case..

I reply to kerri on the micron exhaust and the comments at the end of the post.

I currently own a TL1000sv , you are quite right these animals cost more for insurance, petrol, tyres . I took an demo SV650 out the other day, as soon as I came back,
I put the TL up for sale and ordered a yellow one. The TL looks brilliant but for everyday use, i.e. scratching , commuting , touring , nipping down the shops (150miles away) the SV is perfect in the real world. Excellent site keep up the good work


15/05/00 - AUSSIE FORMULA XTREME - Stephen (sfoster@tenuteq.com.au)

Thought you might be interested in this racing link, it's an Australian site and the class is Formula Xtreme, not sure if this is a world wide class or not. Anyway, within Fomula Xtreme there's another class called NK Lites, basically smaller capacity bikes and guess which one is leading the championship.... The SV650S, it's up against bikes like the Hornet and the Fazer but also races in the same races as ZXR1100s and Buells. 

The only results I've seen so far are for Eastern Creek Raceway which has a loooong front straight yet the little SV was still beating some of the bigger bikes around there. Anyway..... Here's the link, go to racing and then anything labelled as NK Lites to see the SV results. 

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au

P.S Great site and very influential in my decision to get a SV650S      another one.... :- )


15/05/00 - MICRON TO FIT - Many thanks to Olivier (ocaylus@voila.fr) for all the info...if you can answer his questions please do...

This is a reply to an "internal" discussion with Jonathan, further to his "how to fit Micron full set", with all my thanks for the useful advises.

I did the fitting of a Micron full system with oval alloy silencer in the "standard" (low) position last week end. Took me 4 hours also, but it's because I had a problem with the "studs" out of port 1. I must be very bad in english because I never really understood the stud removal procedure... Thus used at first one nut previously removed, screwed it and... got screwed. Impossible to remove as it was turning loose. Then I inserted a second one and it enabled me to release the first one. However, the stud never moved.

Q1 : How did you do it ?! Two nuts to be bolted upside down ? I confirm Micron's remark : it is very difficult to insert the Micron in port1 with the stud, indeed, but not impossible. I had a leakage at first, but then seriously bolted the front pipe and after it was OK. Anyway, there is still a light "peuf peuf" sound at the engine level / front pipe, I think it's the sound of the engine modified by the extremely open air exhaust.

Q2 :Do you have the same ?
The low "standard" position is fine, looks great and enable the use of soft pannier. I also feared that the passenger leg could be burnt by the high level position, even though it's well hidden behind the footpeg. I have a passenger 90% of the time, so these considerations are important.

Anyway, I don't want to leave my bike now ! The sound is incredible, a little "embarrassing" when I'm leaving my garage or crossing a police car, but so pleasing, revealing the bike fabulous engine, transforming the sv in a "full style twin". The gain of power, if not immediately perceptible, is certain in acceleration. I will try to have pictures of my blue sv y2k with this "standard" position micron oval alloy system, the modified rear and the windshield.


Windshield :
Here's a site where you can see the Axair catalog, price list and order possibility in Canada.

http://www.colba.net/~mecamag/boutique-qc/parebrise/lesparebrise.html

Sorry, it's from our french speaking Quebecois cousins... For delivery in Europe, you can contact directly the french manufacturer AXAIR,

Circuit Carole, ZAC Paris Nord 2, BP 50371, 95942 Roissy CDG Cedex.
Phone/fax 33 1 49 38 05 78.

I took the "Dragstair 1" model and am very satisfied with its look and efficiency. 150kmh cruise speed is comfortable on a 500km trip ! About £60 in a lot of colors (I took grey). Good Vibrations to all !


15/05/00 - SPROCKET QUESTION - If you can advise Mark (mark.lockett1@virgin.net) then get in touch...

could anybody tell me where i can get a smaller front sprocket, and is it worth changing? eg for wheelies


15/05/00 - NOISE LEVELS EXPLAINED - If you've got any questions following this comprehensive explanation by Colin (colin@roedaleroad.freeserve.co.uk) don't email me! Thanks Colin...

Some info in response to the following posting:

04/05/00 - MORE ON EXHAUST NOISE LEVELS - Thanks David (David.Lear@cwcom.co.uk)... 


David is correct in that the 'A' weighting scale applied to noise levels is indeed to reflect the freqency response of the human ear. However, it is common when quoting differences in noise levels to drop the 'A' from the suffix.

So the difference between 80dBA and 83dBA is often quoted as 3dB rather than 3dBA. Either way, it means the same thing.

You might already know this, but a deciBel is not a unit - it is a ratio. 

Noise levels are measured by microphones as sound pressure (usually quoted in Pascals, the SI unit for pressure) and the deciBel is the ratio of the measured sound pressure to a reference pressure (20micro Pascals, the lowest pressure tha the human ear can detect at 1000Hz). This is done because the human ear can respond to a very wide range of sound pressure levels, from 20micro Pa to 100,000,000micro Pa. It is quite inconvenient to use a scale of over 1 million to 1, and in any case the sensitivity of the ear is not linear but more logarithmic. Therefore a method was developed of measuring and quoting sound pressure in convenient numbers - the deciBel scale (named after the scientist Alexander Graham Bell). 

Because it is logarithmic, you get 3dB as a doubling of the sound pressure. The human ear and brain however, can only just detect a 3dB difference with 5dB being clearly perceptible and 10dB percieved as a doubling of the volume. Remember, though, that frequency content and tone are also significant factors in perceived noise levels. It depends, of course on the ear in question. After years of riding bikes without earplugs, mine are not as sensitive as they were!

It is also necessary to note that the sound pressure level is very dependent on the distance between the noise source and the listener, and the operating conditions of the vehicle. The 80dBA legal level for new motorcycles is taken at 7.5m from the side of the bikes path while it performs a full throttle acceleration from 50kph in 3rd gear over a 20m zone. The noise is measured on both sides and the highest is the reported level.

If my memory serves me right, the racing regulations, which often quote 105dBA as a limit, require the measurement to be done at 0.5m from the exhaust pipe outlet at 45deg to the centre line. The bike is revved up in nuetral to about 2/3 of it's maximum revs.

Therefore the exhaust system noise level and the whole vehicle noise level are not directly comparable. Be sure to ask the measurement procedure and operating conditions before comparing any noise level to another. 


15/05/00 - SV650 COVER - A new question from Michael (mhm13@columbia.edu)...

Sorry to bother you.... just wanted to know what you feel (or have heard) is the best motorcycle cover for the SV650-I have to store my bike outside, and it would be great to have something water-proof that fits the profile of the bike well. Thanks for any advice. 

I have a general fit canvas cover which is OK but doesn't fit properly and needs bungee <sp?> hooks to secure. If anyone else knows of a specific cover for the SV please let Michael know...


15/05/00 - FUEL FILTER - Another new question asked by Sonny(sonnysu@zdnetonebox.com)...if you can help you know what to do...

Does anybody know where is the best place to put a fuel filter for the SV?


15/05/00 - WHAT MAKES THE FRONT END? - I can't begin to answer your  questions (Nippon56@intergrafix.net) but if the site readership can I'm sure they'll get in touch...

I love this site Kevin. It's easy to navigate and not too many distractions. I'll have to change that then!

Anyway, I recently bought  a blue US '00 SV. And, very recently I wrecked it (so sad). 

Well, according to another sv site (svrider), supposedly we can use a 93 or 94 gsxr 1100 front end with very minimal modification (a change of the steering stem bearings from ball bearings to roller bearings). I can get the parts, however I was wondering if anyone knows if you need the entire front end? 

Besides the forks and the triple clamps, do I need to get a new front wheel and brake set? Will any of the sv parts be transferable to the gsxr forks? Have I forgotten about any other parts? I'm not worried about handlebars, 'cause I'm gonna get clip ons. 

If anyone knows the answers or has found them somewhere else, it would be of great help. 


15/05/00 - SMOKED SCREEN FOR SVS - Des (des105@webhart.net) asks..

I'm looking to put a smoked screen on my SVS and I'm wondering what opinions are out there as to which one to get. I want to stay with the OEM shape and be smoked VERY dark, but not opaque.   I have a tinted screen from MPS but you can see though it so I guess that's no good. Anyone know of a solid coloured screen? (Saw a green one on a ZX6 yesterday....looked dreadful!)


15/05/00 - JON.EARDLE@BT.INTERNET & SV PARTS - Andy (m0chk@x-stream.co.uk) trying to get hold of Jon.....Jon...are you there any longer??

Just tried e-mailing Jon.Eardle@btinternet about the parts he has for sale but the e-mail keeps coming back as if the address is wrong. Could any body help with is address or is the address wrong????


15/05/00 - SWAP AN UNFIARED SV FOR AN SVS IN EAST ANGLIA, UK? - If your interested in this rare chance to swap your unfaired SV for a faired one contact Russell (gladwisa@Serviceteam.Ltd.uk)...

Has anyone out there got an unfaired SV when they wished they had bought a faired one? If you have perhaps we could do a deal. I think I would have preferred an unfaired one and am looking to do an exchange if anyone is interested. Pictures of the bike were posted the other week, the yellow one with pyramid-plastics belly pan. 

You can contact me on this e-mail address at work or at home on Russell@gladwish.fsnet.co.uk if you are interested.


10/05/00 - SV WITH RENEGADE TWIN EXHAUATS VISITING ITALY - This is from Rob (Renegade@dial.pipex.com)...

Rob Barnes on my SV650S will be touring Italy between 19th and 29th May complete with freshly fitted Renegade Twin High Level pipes. They look great and sound even better. They make 6 more ponies at the top end and over 8 more between 5000 and 7000RPM. 

Meet up with me at the Ducati Museum in Bologna, and have a laugh, on the 29th.


10/05/00 - VINCENTS, BOOKS & AN SV RIDER - Not sure that this is exactly SV related but I'll post it in case anyone is interested..this from John (JMorgan@intellimark-it.com)...

A friend of mine, Big Sid Biberman, is a legend among Vincent owners. (He built the 1000cc Vincent engine in Jay Leno's "Norvin", for example). Sid is also very fond of "Geisha Gal", his beautiful, blue SV650. He's  written a classic bike book called "Vincents With Big Sid," and for those not familiar with it I've written the following review. Go visit his site!

Vincents With Big Sid
By S. M. Biberman
Reviewed by John Morgan (AKA Mountainman) 5/9/00

Who should read this book? Anyone who loves motorcycles, that's who! This is not your usual "facts and figures" bike book specific to one marque, but rather a very personal, very well-written recollection by a living  legend of the sport: "Big Sid" Biberman. Big Sid is a preeminent builder/restorer of the legendary Vincent line of motorcycles. Jan Leno wrote the introduction to the book, and Sid built the motor on his "Norvin," a Norton frame containing a Vincent 1000cc engine. With this book, Sid also becomes the poet/historian of the line, as well.

The photos alone are worth the price of the book. If you aren't absolutely drooling over them by the end of the book, you have no soul. Certainly today's bikes are more advanced than the old Vincents, but no other  bike, before or since, has had such a sculpted, machined look about them. The photos capture this ineffable correctness of form quite wonderfully.

The prose is certainly the equal of the photos, as well. Reading this book brought back some powerful memories of the earlier days of our sport for me. Reading about the "old style" bike shops, the early speed record  attempts, the road races, the early days of drag racing in America; it took me back to those glorious days in a powerful, wonderful way. Reading, I could  actually recapture the sounds and smells of those days: the sound of open megaphone exhausts, the pungent aroma of hot castor oil, methanol and nitro fuel.  Good stuff!

Sid has done a great job tracing out the history of the Vincent, also. His accounts of the origins of the line make for great reading. How "PCV" (Philip C. Vincent) built his first bike, his meeting with Philip E.  Irving and the incredible result of the partnership they formed, the steady evolution of the line into the legend it became; this is history at its  most readable best. Nothing dry about it, the characters become real, flesh-and-blood people on the page.

Those who already love Vincents will devour every page of the book. Those unfamiliar with them will love them by the end. What's not to love about a bike (the Black Shadow) that debuted in 1948 with a showroom-stock top  speed in excess of 125mph? And with the reliability and handling to properly harness what was then unheard-of power. Any yes, the photo section  contains the famous picture of Rollie Free in swim trunks, slippers and swim cap flat-out on his stomach on the rear fender with his legs out behind him, setting the land speed record of 150.3mph that same year!

I had the pleasure of riding a Black Shadow way back in 1963. To this day, the memory of that loping engine generating volcanic torque remains sharp and fresh in my mind. Big Sid's book reinforces that memory most wonderfully. To get your own copy, just visit Sid's website and order it online. The URL is:
http://www.mindspring.com/~bigsid. Go get one, you'll thank yourself  for it!


10/05/00 - TWIN EXHAUST SYSTEM QUESTIONS & OTHER THINGS - Thanks for this Stephen (sjpalmer@saber.net)...

Questions on the twin exhaust systems: 

Do they use a crossover pipe between the header pipes from each cylinder? Are the header pipes for both cylinders the same length? Just remembering my days with two Honda V-4s (VFR & V65) where the header pipes for the front cylinders were much longer than the rear cylinders and all dumped into a common can often called a sub-muffler under the engine and then into two mufflers. This was the stock system and reasonably efficient and very quiet of course. Problem was the jetting on the carbs had to be different because of the different header pipe lengths that tuned to different RPMs. The factory had done this for the stock system of course, but if you modified anything you were on your own. Even the the CV slide return springs were different on the front vs. rear carbs! 

To apply this to the SV-650 would mean the jetting would have to be different on the cylinders if the header pipes were of substantially different lengths. You can see an attempt to not have to do this with the way the rear pipe on the stock system is curved around to get more  length. It still doesn't look as long as the front pipe though. Does anyone know if the carb jetting is different front to rear when stock? The key to efficiency in exhaust systems is volume in the mufflers to get both low restriction and adequate silencing. This is why a dual exhaust will look better as the volume can be split between two mufflers without being large and bulky like the stock silencer. A crossover pipe often helps by allowing each cylinder to exhaust its pulse of gasses through both mufflers. The problem with a V-twin can be that the pulses are not evenly spaced like a vertical twin or a boxer flat twin. This uneven spacing also gives you the distinctive sound of a V-twin so beloved of Harley and Ducati owners. The fact that all these modifications are not adding all that much to the power or RPM curve tells me that Suzuki has a very efficient design here, half-a-BUSA indeed! 

Just took delivery on my red SV in Eureka, California a few weeks ago but only have a few miles on it. The Lost Coast decided to make up for a dry Winter with a long rainy Spring. Being an old fart who doesn't like to ride in the rain or clean up a dirty bike afterwards I'm making myself wait for dry weather. Love the SV already as it handles as quickly as my old RD & RZ with broad smooth power like my original Triumph twin and the bitchin sound of my bevel drive Ducati twin. Yeah I've survived a long time since I road raced a Triumph 650 TT Special at Cotati Raceway against Ron Grant and an RD350 at Sears Point. Take it easy riding your motorcycles my friends and you can survive long enough to ride the latest thing in your reti